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| Posted: Mon Nov 14th, 2011 01:20 am |
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Joey Roddy Member
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Hello everyone,
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14th, 2011 12:54 pm |
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truthseeker Administrator
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Hi Joey, As you can see from the thread below, there is not even agreement among believers about eternal security, but I believe it is worth researching for yourself, speaking with your pastor or another one about, and considering whether or not your church holds the same view as you do after your research. I am inclined to believe that fear of the loss of salvation is a weapon of Satan rather than supported by Scripture, but I am no theologian. http://www.blazinggrace.org/forums/view_topic.php?id=406&forum_id=13&highlight=cedarville TruthSeeker
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2011 07:20 pm |
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mike Administrator
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Hi Joey - Welcome to the forums. There are plenty of articles on the BG website about dealing with sexual sin - getting an accountability partner, cutting off the stumbling blocks (Matthew 5) dealing with the core issues of the heart, etc. so I won't go into those here. The OCD is a separate, chemical issue that can be influenced by spiritual oppression. Here's what I mean: You slip into sexual sin. You're attacked with the arrows from the enemy you've described of fear, condemnation, torment, etc. Your mind starts tripping over these thoughts repeatedly. The harder you try to fight them, the more the thoughts flood in. Then the fears progress to the fear of losing salvation. Now the torment intensifies. None of this is meant to devalue the conviction of the Holy Spirit of sin, but to highlight the struggles with the mental torment and its causes. The first step, of course, is to take action against the sexual sin itself as is described throughout the website. To the extent your battle is OCD/chemical, the more you fight the thoughts the more they will flood in, so the trick is to allow them to pass through without trying to force your mind to shut off. In other words, don't fight them. This can be frightening at first because it might seem like you're agreeing with them, but here you need to remind yourself of the truth - this is a chemical issue, it is OCD, and you don't want those thoughts. What the devil tries to do is stir up the pot (fear is one of his biggest weapons), and this is where knowing the truth of God's word is critical. You must know who you are in Christ and who God is, and stand firm on it. People don't "lose" their salvation - they walk away from it. The enemy's strategy is to keep you so bound up in fear and torment that you lose hope, harden your heart, and turn away from God. "Perfect love casts our fear." As you come to know the love of God and allow Him to minister to you with the truth, all that gunk will start to fall off. It takes time, hard work, and standing in the truth, but you've gotten this far. The Lord does NOT abandon His people. (That's what I mean by knowing who God is). Learn to discern what is OCD vs. spiritual warfare, and in time, the battle will get easier as you will know how to fight it. Right now it sounds like you're trying to "fight the thoughts" which will never work to the extent it's OCD. I recommend reading "Victory over the Darkness" by Neil Anderson and "Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners" by John Bunyan. Also, here's a Christian article on dealing with the OCD part: http://www.net-burst.net/guilty/unforgivable_blasphemy.htm He deals with the spiritual as well as chemical side of what you're going through. Praying for you.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2011 08:20 pm |
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guitarist63 Member
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Joey Roddy, I'll pray. Last edited on Wed Nov 16th, 2011 01:08 pm by guitarist63 |
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